Rethinking Economics (@rethinkecon )

Rethinking Economics



Bio Students, academics and citizens changing economics for the better; in society and classrooms, we pursue an economics that is open, relevant and for everyone.
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iPhone : Adam Brown So rather than the commonly accepted definition of ‘studied a sociology degree and/or worked in a sociology department’, you’re making up your own? I think this conversation is over, we’ve made our point

iPhone : Adam Brown Individual maximisation is at the core of macro and micro models from demand-supply to DSGE. It is used in IO, behavioural econ, development econ. It’s simply not credible to suggest it isn’t front and centre of economics-teaching or education

iPhone : ste_ Rethinking Economics utterly condemns the words of Luca Giangregorio and we dissociate ourselves from such toxic rhetoric. Rethinking Economics is a global movement of students that work to improve the teaching of economics and offers no place for this sort of violent politics.

Hootsuite Inc. : Adam Brown so now you've moved from 'economics is built on the principles of psychology and sociology' to 'it's not, but students don't really believe the models we teach them'. Why don't you just state, without sophistry, what these principles are and how they are a core part of economics?

Hootsuite Inc. : Adam Brown with the exception of Simon, none of those guys had a background in psychology or sociology. Neither would a mathematician like Nash, so it's bizarre that you'd mention him...

Hootsuite Inc. : Luigi Marattin Rethinking Economics utterly condemns the words of Luca Giangregorio and we dissociate ourselves from such toxic rhetoric. Rethinking Economics is a global movement of students that work to improve the teaching of economics and offers no place for this sort of violent politics.

Hootsuite Inc. : Luigi Marattin Rethinking Economics utterly condemns the words of Luca Giangregorio and we dissociate ourselves from such toxic rhetoric. Rethinking Economics is a global movement of students that work to improve the teaching of economics and offers no place for this sort of violent politics.

Hootsuite Inc. : Adam Brown conventions are real inasmuch as they determine practice, which in the case of university curricula means they are not widely taught. And you are overstating your case if you think individual maximisation has roots in pscyh and soc, many object hugely to that way of doing things

Hootsuite Inc. : Adam Brown They are separate subjects and are taught separately. They are not *entirely* separate conceptually, and I never said that. As for 'all the Nobel Prize winners', who do you mean? Ostrom was a political scientist and Kahneman a psychologist, but that's about it

Hootsuite Inc. : Adam Brown Nobody made claims about 'the majority of all worldwide economists' - the surveys are of US economists in general, the centre of the profession and therefore the area which has the most influence. Don't like it? Take it up with them. Call out bad economics from your peers

Hootsuite Inc. : Next month there’s another (!!) conference in Zimbabwe, hosted joint by the Young Scholar’s Initiative and Economic Thinkers. Just look at the list of topics and tell us you don’t want to go 😉 ineteconomics.org/events/ysi-afr…

Hootsuite Inc. : Adam Brown I’m not interested in defending every single claim in the article, but the major point is that core economic ideas and advisors neglect sociology. And there is substantial evidence that many economists do disregard it, and other social sciences: google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thea…

Hootsuite Inc. : Adam Brown Such an odd comparison - cosmology is a part of physics, sociology is a different subject to economics. Maybe it shouldn’t be! But that’s kind of the point

Hootsuite Inc. : Adam Brown Economics should indeed be multidisciplinary! But the fact is most econ students will not get exposure to sociology, since optional modules are limited and sometimes discouraged and there is little sociology in the econ modules. That’s why we need other social scientists too

Hootsuite Inc. : Adam Brown Who’s straw manning now? God man just give it up, we have ample evidence to show sociological considerations are given short shrift in econ education. I’m sure you and your colleagues are excellent sociologists but if so you’ve no need to get ‘upset’ as it doesn’t apply to you

Hootsuite Inc. : Adam Brown I claimed economic *modules* do not include sociology if you reread. Have you ever heard of joint degrees, or requesting modules outside your subject? Many among RE switched to those because we were disenchanted with pure economics.

Hootsuite Inc. : Adam Brown Some of our members have indeed studied sociology, sociology and economics or just done a few sociology modules. You’re not arguing in good faith at this point - if you need qualifications in both econ and sociology to comments I doubt you qualify either

Hootsuite Inc. : Adam Brown Yes: pluralism, interdisciplinarity, history & history of thought, critical thinking, empiricism and real world applications. We were very explicit. I will add that we all have at least a degree in economics so we have experienced it first hand across a range of unis & countries